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what in the world is going on with john mccain? a day after the president publicly humiliated him for cowardly attacking u.n. ambassador susan rice, someone who had nothing to do with the libya tragedy, mccain was out looking for another tv camera again. hey, america. this is what bitterness looks like. >> four americans died that didn't have to die. and for someone to go out and convey something that is absolutely false to all america in my view bears responsibility. >> i don't know how you logically assume that she had nothing to do with benghazi. the american people were told false information by her at the direction of the white house. >> now, we all know ambassador rice was stating the intelligence that had been provided to her. but mccain wasn't done. >> by the way, i'm not taking anybody on. the american people have lost four brave americans. we owe it to their families. we owe it to other americans who served. we'll find out what happened. for the president of the united states for two weeks afterwards to deny that that was
what in the world is going on with john mccain? a day after the president publicly humiliated him for cowardly attacking u.n. ambassador susan rice, someone who had nothing to do with the libya tragedy, mccain was out looking for another tv camera again. hey, america. this is what bitterness looks like. >> four americans died that didn't have to die. and for someone to go out and convey something that is absolutely false to all america in my view bears responsibility. >> i don't...
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let me show you what john mccain said. >> it's obvious they were using the wrong model. we questioned the model from things we were hearing on the ground as we traveled for two months without a day off around the country campaigning for mitt romney. we were hearing things on the ground that contradicted the pollsters. one of the first things i would say is maybe the pollsters should give them money back. >> he's using the same pollster that is mccain used. >> ironic. >> there is so much blame game now. i keep going back to the message. i'm speaking from my generation. i don't remember romney speaking at a lot of college campuses. i can't remember that happening. you have to say, why did we lose? blame the ground game, the pollsters, everything else around you as karl rove is doing. when it comes down to it, it really is because of the messaging. president obama offered the status quo. we offered more of the same on the track that's working. what we saw from romney and paul ryan was not a message. they didn't provide specifics. they didn't provide an alternative path forw
let me show you what john mccain said. >> it's obvious they were using the wrong model. we questioned the model from things we were hearing on the ground as we traveled for two months without a day off around the country campaigning for mitt romney. we were hearing things on the ground that contradicted the pollsters. one of the first things i would say is maybe the pollsters should give them money back. >> he's using the same pollster that is mccain used. >> ironic. >>...
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john mccain was the guy who drove cap and trade. now the republicans have turned their back on their own solution which was market-based solution. now they're calling it a carbon tax though what cap and trade would do would create a different set of incentives that everyone in the market would get to participate in. the problem politically politics placed the emphasis on the wrong place. politics isn't set up to deal with long-term problems and we treat climate as if it's a long-term problem, it's not. forget about the fiscal cliff there's a climate cliff and we've already gone over it and that's what's disturbing about the president's remarks. they don't reflect the urgency of the reality. >> we were at a good turning point of al gore's movie, public pressure mounting to do something and over time likely because of the recession we moved away from that conversation. i can't help but think if it was ohio and not new york that was hit by a storm like this that we would have a different conversation going on. and i think you're right.
john mccain was the guy who drove cap and trade. now the republicans have turned their back on their own solution which was market-based solution. now they're calling it a carbon tax though what cap and trade would do would create a different set of incentives that everyone in the market would get to participate in. the problem politically politics placed the emphasis on the wrong place. politics isn't set up to deal with long-term problems and we treat climate as if it's a long-term problem,...
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. >> if you had said to me three weeks ago, mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can find me at @tamronhall and my team at @newsnation. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and my daughter loves the santa. oh, ah sir. that is a customer. let's not tell mom. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. now...guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> welcome back. how to rebrand the gop is the subject of a new serie
. >> if you had said to me three weeks ago, mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can find me at @tamronhall and my team at @newsnation. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well,...
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why has john mccain become this john mccain. he's like the joker in batman. life has been good to me. >> i think it's personal peak. i think he never got over 2008. he's got a double standard going on between the two rices and it's apples and oranges. susan rice had nothing to do with benghazi. condoleezza rice had a lot to do with the war in iraq. the comparison is specious on any level. >> why doesn't he ever talk about all the republicans who voted against $300 million that hillary clinton wanted to beef up embassy and consulate security? there are some questions, there are republicans who opposed that need to answer. that's one of the reasons those people lost their lives. >> it's sad. thank you, ron reagan and jonathan alter. >>> coming up, there are dog whistles and then there are bull horns and another republican official is blowing his next. and that is "hardball," the place for politics. into their work, their name on the door, and their heart into their community. small business saturday is a day to show our support. a day to shop at stores owned by
why has john mccain become this john mccain. he's like the joker in batman. life has been good to me. >> i think it's personal peak. i think he never got over 2008. he's got a double standard going on between the two rices and it's apples and oranges. susan rice had nothing to do with benghazi. condoleezza rice had a lot to do with the war in iraq. the comparison is specious on any level. >> why doesn't he ever talk about all the republicans who voted against $300 million that...
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we just had to have john mccain numbers, and we didn't have it. >> who was your candidate that would have done better than romney? >> jeb bush. >> jeb bush. interesting. you're sort of an establishment republican. >> yeah, of course. i'm not a tea party. i will say though i think the tea party reaction was a reaction not to what bob was saying, but a reaction to big government, much of what -- >> you're -- okay. look, i think jeb is the best of that family in many ways, but let me tell you something. it's not a bad family, but he's certainly the best of them. let me tell you the problem with what you said, feary, and gave away. this is a dangerous thing you have given. one of my little speech notes i give when i talk to groups is just think about the country we're in. from the time i paid attention to politics in 1952 to 2004, the same three names showed up on every republican ticket, nixon, let's see, bush, then filling in the blanks, bob dole and back by popular demand in '96 bob dole. now you're saying the solution to the republican future is bush. it's a legacy. can't you broaden
we just had to have john mccain numbers, and we didn't have it. >> who was your candidate that would have done better than romney? >> jeb bush. >> jeb bush. interesting. you're sort of an establishment republican. >> yeah, of course. i'm not a tea party. i will say though i think the tea party reaction was a reaction not to what bob was saying, but a reaction to big government, much of what -- >> you're -- okay. look, i think jeb is the best of that family in many...
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you had john mccain four years ago, john kerry eight years ago. so it is different because during the weeks after he was put on the romney ticket, there was a lot offed a you'll lation for paul ryan here. it is different now. and he comes back and we expect he'll get his same position as the head of the house budget committee. that requires a special waiver because he's had that job for the maximum amount of time. he's still well-regarded by his republican colleagues and i think you get a sense that he's been through a challenging election period. we'll have to see how much of a public posture he wants to have going forward, and so ryan is back, but we don't yet have a measure of how influential he will be. >> what sway then, kelly, do you think he has in the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> everything we're getting a sense of is that this will be a negotiation that at least on front stage will be between speaker boehner and president obama. and so boehner is certainly influenced by ryan's knowledge of the budget, but i don't think that this is going
you had john mccain four years ago, john kerry eight years ago. so it is different because during the weeks after he was put on the romney ticket, there was a lot offed a you'll lation for paul ryan here. it is different now. and he comes back and we expect he'll get his same position as the head of the house budget committee. that requires a special waiver because he's had that job for the maximum amount of time. he's still well-regarded by his republican colleagues and i think you get a sense...
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the lesson taken away there was john mccain was too moderate. our principles weren't on the ballot. they got some validation in 2010 when the tea party took over the republican party and used fear, hatred and anger to ride to a midterm electoral win. in a presidential year when the whole country is turning out it's a different matter. the problem for the republican party is as the establishment says, we are to come back to the center, where the country is, back to policies that make sense to people, is they've spent so long using that fear, riding that fear, that hatred, that, you know, that fear of the other, to electoral wins that they've trained their base that this is where they need to be. so, it's going to be very hard, republican members of congress are going to be looking over their shoulder, wondering if they're going to be primaried by a tea party group, and it's going to be hard for -- they will have to be politically courageous, something they're not good at doing, to come back to the center. >> now, steve, the base, where is the base? because if the base is the tea part
the lesson taken away there was john mccain was too moderate. our principles weren't on the ballot. they got some validation in 2010 when the tea party took over the republican party and used fear, hatred and anger to ride to a midterm electoral win. in a presidential year when the whole country is turning out it's a different matter. the problem for the republican party is as the establishment says, we are to come back to the center, where the country is, back to policies that make sense to...
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john mccain almost lost the republican primary season in 2008 because he was in favor of comprehensive immigration reform. he had to double back. they're going to have to get out of that. they're going to have to be able to say there is a different path forward, not just to citizenship, but to dealing with immigration as an issue, which is complicated, understandably. but start with more actually free market type of solutions and say, hey, look, why are we micromanaging the number of immigrants from each and every country? why don't we expand the number of visas? start with that, certainly. start shutting down people who use immigration as a very passionate and very irrational issue from which to sort of project all of their fears. >> we are already starting to see and hear some of that from folks on the right. let's switch gears and talk about this year's electorates. according to exit polls, there's been a steady decline of white voters. in 2008, they made out 80%. in 2004, you see it go down. in 2012, we're looking at about 72%. here's today's salon article. america, love it or leav
john mccain almost lost the republican primary season in 2008 because he was in favor of comprehensive immigration reform. he had to double back. they're going to have to get out of that. they're going to have to be able to say there is a different path forward, not just to citizenship, but to dealing with immigration as an issue, which is complicated, understandably. but start with more actually free market type of solutions and say, hey, look, why are we micromanaging the number of immigrants...
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john mccain, lindsey graham going after her for repeating what the president says was the intel that was available at the time. you're on the committee. can you tell us, was susan rice, from what you know, just repeating what was being told to everybody in washington at the time on what had happened in benghazi? >> well, here's what i think, joe. i think without question, i mean, you know, you've got guys storming a consulate with ak-47s, with rpgs and firing mortars. they knew immediately this was a terrorist attack. there wasn't any question about that. and why the white house didn't come out and say that immediately, i don't know. they tried to soften it somewhat with regard to it was a spontaneous action that stemmed from a protest. there was a question about whether protesters were there. and five days later, susan rice goes on tv and says that not only was it a protest, but it apparently stemmed from this trailer or this movie that had been shown. and very honestly by that point in time, we were beyond that. so i do think that there were some politics involved in the message th
john mccain, lindsey graham going after her for repeating what the president says was the intel that was available at the time. you're on the committee. can you tell us, was susan rice, from what you know, just repeating what was being told to everybody in washington at the time on what had happened in benghazi? >> well, here's what i think, joe. i think without question, i mean, you know, you've got guys storming a consulate with ak-47s, with rpgs and firing mortars. they knew...